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I thought Atlantic City casinos were supposed to be struggling, but perhaps a million dollars is just a drop in the bucket and didn't make anybody's radar. Whatever the case, the same group of advantage players hit another game with the exact same flaw, Golden Egypt. Here is a full article about it, DÉJÀ VU: ADVANTAGE PLAYER CRACKS ONLINE CASINOS AGAIN, THIS TIME FOR OVER $500K.
Golden Egypt is a popular game here in Las Vegas. Now that the cat is out of the bag on that advantage play, I think I'll explain in which of the 32 coin configurations it is a positive play. It is definitely vulnerable to vultures anywhere.
The question for now is there a third game out there with the same kind of variable state flaw or will the casinos figure out what went wrong this time? The whole thing reminds me of this quote...
Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A
The question for the poll is what are your thoughts? (multiple votes allowed)
I'll help you out a little.
Will it be much less likely they make a 3rd mistake since I have been laying out exactly why and how they are making mistakes along with the aproximate player advantage?
Revel (math)
Plaza
Just a little reminder since...
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat (or something like that.)
p.s. Just giving you a hard time since, well , I know this is what you do. It seems to me you have actually been way more thoughtful of AP'S for a long while now.
You may recall from the thread on Ocean Magic that advantage players took online casinos for almost a million dollars because the Ocean Magic game started in the same advantage game state for every player in every casino and every bet denomination. You would think a million dollar loss would cause someone to figure out why Ocean Magic was getting killed. A simple Internet search would have easily taken them to the Ocean Magic thread here or this article.
I thought Atlantic City casinos were supposed to be struggling, but perhaps a million dollars is just a drop in the bucket and didn't make anybody's radar. Whatever the case, the same group of advantage players hit another game with the exact same flaw, Golden Egypt. Here is a full article about it, DÉJÀ VU: ADVANTAGE PLAYER CRACKS ONLINE CASINOS AGAIN, THIS TIME FOR OVER $500K.
Golden Egypt is a popular game here in Las Vegas. Now that the cat is out of the bag on that advantage play, I think I'll explain in which of the 32 coin configurations it is a positive play. It is definitely vulnerable to vultures anywhere.
The question for now is there a third game out there with the same kind of variable state flaw or will the casinos figure out what went wrong this time? The whole thing reminds me of this quote...
Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A
The question for the poll is what are your thoughts? (multiple votes allowed)
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You are the one taking the cat out of the bag.
Seems to me that njonlinegambling.com did.
Seems to me that njonlinegambling.com did.
Not really, they're at the bottom of the page, you'll be at the top. You're just using that as an excuse. BFS.Administrator
Not really, they're at the bottom of the page, you'll be at the top. You're just using that as an excuse. BFS.
Fair point. I would argue that the Golden Egypt play is well known already through word of mouth.
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Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3R2tgy33Xs
That said, my initial results so far show that if there are at least two coins in reels 1 to 4, then you should play. Reel 5 doesn't figure into the decision. I should say that someone on the Golden Egypt Atlantic City Team feels my advantage numbers are too small.
Here they are for all 32 coin configurations. A 1 means there is already a coin and a 0 not. The value column shows the value, measured in bets, of finding a game in that state. If it's blank, then the value is negative. This is based on a hypothetical 94% game, which I know is a rosy assumption. The spins column shows the average number of times you'll play to get that value out of the game. So, the value should not be misinterpreted as a player advantage per spin.
Golden Egypt Slot Machine
Initial coin pattern | Value | Spins |
---|---|---|
0--0--0--0--0 | ||
0--0--0--0--1 | ||
0--0--0--1--0 | ||
0--0--0--1--1 | ||
0--0--1--0--0 | ||
0--0--1--0--1 | ||
0--0--1--1--0 | 0.23 | 15.35 |
0--0--1--1--1 | 0.65 | 15.62 |
0--1--0--0--0 | ||
0--1--0--0--1 | ||
0--1--0--1--0 | 0.37 | 15.36 |
0--1--0--1--1 | 0.79 | 15.62 |
0--1--1--0--0 | 1.93 | 15.35 |
0--1--1--0--1 | 2.36 | 15.62 |
0--1--1--1--0 | 3.16 | 17.48 |
0--1--1--1--1 | 3.96 | 17.64 |
1--0--0--0--0 | ||
1--0--0--0--1 | ||
1--0--0--1--0 | 0.35 | 15.36 |
1--0--0--1--1 | 0.77 | 15.62 |
1--0--1--0--0 | 1.90 | 15.35 |
1--0--1--0--1 | 2.34 | 15.63 |
1--0--1--1--0 | 3.13 | 17.48 |
1--0--1--1--1 | 3.94 | 17.64 |
1--1--0--0--0 | 2.05 | 15.36 |
1--1--0--0--1 | 2.49 | 15.63 |
1--1--0--1--0 | 3.29 | 17.48 |
1--1--0--1--1 | 4.09 | 17.64 |
1--1--1--0--0 | 5.40 | 17.48 |
1--1--1--0--1 | 6.21 | 17.64 |
1--1--1--1--0 | 7.46 | 18.84 |
1--1--1--1--1 | 8.94 | 18.96 |
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Fair point. I would argue that the Golden Egypt play is well known already through word of mouth.
FYI your cats seem to get more attention and validity. The industry as a hole probably takes heed once you give your opinion and show the math.Golden Egypt Slot Youtube
Occasionally someone will leave with the wild activated, and there will be one or two spins with wilds coming on subsequent spins. I would assume it's a good play with a wild column in reels 1-3 and not a good play in reel 5, but not sure about the 4th reel.